Comments on: How to tell if someone is AFKing in your BG

By: Auto Afk Reporting Mod – HeroStatus « Pugnacious Priest's Warcraft Blog

Mon, 07 Mar 2011 23:07:48 +0000

[...] to silent report which I may implement when I start peeing people off too much. Ages ago I wrote how to tell if someone is afking. How to tell hasn’t changed much. I also like to check location . I also has mindvision. I [...]

By: 2ndNin

2ndNin — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:16:31 +0000

Blizzard sets up the gear, might not be their plan but in general high ilvl gear > low ilvl gear (in general, there are many exceptions). This relationship means PVP providing a fast and easy way to high Ilvl slot gear is an imbalance between PvE and PvP.

By: pugnaciouspriest

pugnaciouspriest — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:30:01 +0000

@Tuna – I will lol – Shadowword death for the killing blow!

By: pugnaciouspriest

pugnaciouspriest — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:28:38 +0000

@2nd nin – I have a theory – that most of the theory crafting isn’t blizzard…. that often their gear use intentions don’t end up being used for what its supposed to. The players and theory crafters determine a pieces ‘best use’ and would explain perhaps why the loot trees for Tier, PVE, and PVP haven’t developed in tandam, I’m suprised that one of the PVP Daggers has Spell hit on it, but my Badge Blade doesn’t. No matter what gear is introduced players are going to find other uses then what it was intended for..

By: Tuna

Tuna — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:11:20 +0000

Eww the afker had to be from my server too! Yea afkers are getting sneakier with it nowadays. You can see stealthers just hiding behind rock near the flag area in EotS, or NEs shadowmelded somewhere near the action, and never see them move.

Maybe I’ll see you around in BGs someday. Be on the look out for Utada, who will be stealing your kills, one Fireblast at a time.

By: 2ndNin

2ndNin — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:46:58 +0000

yeah, but my point was that a lot of the gear thats achievable in pvp isn’t in pve, at least before badge gear starts to exist, and that doesn’t cover every slot. Really there needs to be 3-4 loot systems in the game:

PVP Gear
—- Battleground Gear
—- Arena Gear
—- Rep Gear

PVE Gear
—- Badge Gear
—- Raiding Gear
—- Rep / Instance Gear

Taking the rep gear aside since that can easily be implemented for both sides (pvp rep ftw!, and could actually have some cross-role implementation) we have Badge / Raiding gear and BG/Arena Gear. Of these Badge gear for PVE can basically be slot fillers, and a good base level set for raiders, it can lack hit rating and such like on many of the items as its not designed to be boss gear (16% hit rating needed) so can optimise more for damage and survival, tanking sets can be pushed through this route as well.

The PVP gear can again be split, however with Arena gear and BG gear split, Arena is a small high resilience environment, BGs something else. Make the gear separate and different from PVE and you have two complimentary systems, let them overlap to the degree that they do at current and you have raiders needing to do PVP in order to get gear of equivalent level. Thats the fundamental problem, PVPers don’t want afk PVEers in their BG/Arenas messing it up, and PVEers don’t want to have to go afk when they could be doing something more relevant to them (or have a BoJ -> Honour/Points conversion?).

By: gnomeaggedon

gnomeaggedon — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:18:03 +0000

I had one AFK mage that was smart enough to build up some damage and kills early on in a fight.. in fact I wonder still if it was someone multiboxing.

When I put out the call to report, someone piped up that the afker was top on damage and kills… that shut me up for a few minutes.

However I was sure they hadn’t moved in ages, so after chasing down an enemy flag carrier, I dropped by said damage/kill leader to discover they were merrily running into one of the sides of the battleground.

They did enough to give the impression of playing, then went off and played their xbox (or something…)

By: pugnaciouspriest

pugnaciouspriest — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:52:54 +0000

@Cyra – It must have been really bad luck as to their lack of healers.. or they were the two that dropped out of the bg and were replaced. I have heard stories of 6 healers in a WSG – the fun of randomness!

By: pugnaciouspriest

pugnaciouspriest — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:48:21 +0000

@2ndnin – Blizz is on its way to accomodate the gear issue with the rep peices that are available, however admitably some of the rep grinds are woeful. Good Gear shouldn’t be too easy to get – or there is no distinction between people who put effort in and people who don’t, having said that I would like to see more obtainable crafted items cross all classes. In Bg’s There is a difference between people who try and people who afk. Your not expected to be good. How do you measure good? The Most killing blows, the highest damage/healing.. or that you were the one that babysat stables and called Inc. Whats important is that you try, and learn… and I am not looking forward to the pvp grind i intent to do for some select peices on my almost 68 Fire Mage alt who has a total of 17 resistance and 5000 health. But I’m gonna try! I might have to go ice to make the millon deaths more bearable..

By: 2ndNin

2ndNin — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:15:53 +0000

Well tell Blizzard to stop hiding gear behind honour and arena points and we can talk

I hate pvp, but to gear my lock since she is an alt the best gear I can get is in the pvp sections… give me a pve way and I won’t be there cluttering up your bg