Mind Control is a Valid form of CC – I promise!


Its annoying convincing people to let me use my Mindcontrol. I think sometimes they think I just want to muck around. I don’t think of it as reliable as a sheep or a trap, while its much like a Warlocks enslave it doesnt let the Mc’er do anything but stand there in a trance . “I’d rather you DPS” is the most common response, and are I am therefore passed over for other dpsers with better forms of CC – I do agree that given its limitations it can be a poor mans CC – but its saved hides in ZA and MT when I’ve done it.

Depending on the situation/instance some positives can be
1) It reduces the load off the tank if its a melee Target. ( gives the healer some breathing room)
2) Your MC mob can try and tank another mob.
3) It can stop them from healing other mobs therefore making them easier to kill.

Sure its fun in a combat situation to grap someone with completely random abilities and read what they are before either throwing something, causing an AOE that breaks all the other cc’s or Blasts an enemy for a whole 300 damage. Randomly pressing buttons on your CC’d mobs spell bar does not help.

and somtimes when it breaks you need to throw sheild up on yourself and pray to Elune that you can either re Mc or someone stun the target and try and give you a chance to drop agro. ( Try… HAHAHA )

It does take practise – positioning and knowing what abilitys and target is best for you to use. You have limited spells to use, sometimes 2 – i think Ive seen 4 once. Some of these are fears, which can be bad  – So who picks what spells on a mob we get to play with eh ?

Alot of the spells available to the Mindercontroller have extended cooldowns, so I end up meleeing on alot of them with casters, and find that they can melee alot more damage then cast.. eg in MgT and Botanica .  In addition they also have Mob only self buffs, so you can’t buff you, the mind controller,  and you have just buffed  the mob you have control over and that will make him harder to kill when the MC breaks. 

Some have buffs that you can get, can be directed to buff yourself..  I will MC Ogre Shamans and get them to heal me when I’m in Shadow Form,  if farming for Basilisks I will visit the arakkoa and one of their casters gives you a Mana cost reduction spellbuff.  On the WOW Forums there is a Mind control fun thread Mind Control Funwhich gives more details on other people experiences.

I mind control people in BG’s sometimes, the duration of the MC has been nerfed so its not as fun or effective, its hard to get the cast off without interruption and then and then when you do, avoiding any damage whatsoever so that you can actually force the person you have control over to do something like jump off a cliff.
There isn’t much you can do to another player mindcontrolled. You have limited time and distance, and no spells. If you run them too far away they go out of range for the spell to work. They can also trinket out of it

Most of the battle is convincing others that we can do it… but using mind control does require a bit more ‘planning’ and the understanding of the team that it may break.

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9 Responses to “Mind Control is a Valid form of CC – I promise!”


  1. 1 2ndNin August 28, 2008 at 11:46 am

    Yes it is.

    When I write my post on priests its getting put under CC :P, Screw Sheep, that spell causes the enemy to need to be dealt with when I have low mana, Mind Control can be used more effectively in many instances to remove an enemy, then to control another bringing it into the fight… two targets removed from a fight for a minor cost (and your Healer Holy Priest can do the first bit :P, so CC no matter the priest).

  2. 2 natarumah August 28, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    Well, while its major limitation is not actually being able to anything else but channel the spell (and it is prone to breaking early no matter how much spell hit you have), I love Mind Control for its surprise factor in saving the day.

    The gauntlet to Jan’alai can sometimes be an issue if a flamecaster manages to escape CC and escape into our Paladin tank’s consecrate. What better than to immediately MC him?

    The flamecaster is out of the picture, you have the chance to AoE a bit to soften up the mobs, after which you either release him to die at the hands of your friends, or at least far enough out of the consecrate to be CC’d again.

    And yes, regaining mana while channeling the spell is a godsend!

    ^_^

    Natarumah

  3. 3 Cynra August 28, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    I rarely used Mind Control before reaching 60 other than in solo-grinding and questing (hit a target, Mind Control it, and then use it to take out other mobs) or PvP. My first real use of it as a valid form of crowd control was fighting the Scholomance Dark Summoners in that third large room of the instance. I was always so excited when I was in a group and asked to do that!

    However, as a Holy priest and often the sole healer of the group I really don’t like being told to Mind Control. This is especially a problem in Zul’Aman, where we do mount runs and go with only two healers; if I end up Mind Controlling, it means that the Holy paladin is solo healing all of us during an encounter!

  4. 4 quemedo August 28, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    Some mobs you will like to MC somewhere:

    - Fireshield caster on mechanar. They give a huge dps with that fire shield and can use a lot of skills, 3 i think :] and very ncie dps.
    - Engineer on mechanar. Dude, death ray and shrink ray, what else do you want?
    - Mender on botanica. They give you 30min buffs for 295 spelldamage. GG.
    - Chemist on botanica. I don’t remember if its him who have death and decay. If it is, GG again. I did solo tank two guards with him.
    - Warlock on MGT. You can spam a warlock skill (that fire who runs on the ground) and easily tank another mob with it.
    - Blood guards on MGT. They heal and give dps, what else do you want? :]
    - Warlocks on Ramparts. Again, spam skills. The damage is not that grate to steal agro, but it’s worth it. It have fear to :]
    - Flame caster on ZA. Dude, firebolt voley and another stant cast skill. Very very good. And don’t forget the fire rush it haves, firebolt voley for 0.5 cast.
    - Patrol on Vexalus, MGT. If you are a shadowpriest and never mind controled him, do it. NOW. You gonna enjoy it, you party is going to enjoy it. That mob throws shadow bolts and can use a shadowbolt voley. But that voley don’t hit 5 targets only, it hits EVERY SINGLE MOB IN FRONT OF HIM. If you can manage to get a pally tank and agro the whole room, use it. You going to see a LOT of shadowbolts flying and kicking ass. Again, do it, NOW.

    I don’t mind control random mobs in outlands. Only on heroics/raids. If you can, mind control the necros on Mount hyjal and keep hiting 7 on your action bar. They give someone 300 haste rating for 6 seconds and give then 3k damage. That’s uber.

    And always defend flag/LM on eots/AB. In flag you just mind control and drop people out. LM is the same. Mind control someone and throw him off the cliff.

  5. 5 Meltfacer August 28, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    My guild is short on mages, and I always end up mind controling the necromancers in Hyjal. When mind controlled they can buff melee with +100% attack speed for ~6 seconds. I mc, have the melee group in a handy position and just start buffing down the list.

    Later pulls in Hyjal have groups that are like 6 banshees (undead) and 6 necromancers.. Lacking sheep one day, I shakled an incoming Banshee, mind controled a necro and used the mc to tank TWO! other necros… gogo priest quad cc’ing :)

  6. 6 Meltfacer August 28, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    I should add that in cases where extreme cc like that is needed, I usually put on my shadow resist gear because the necro’s do all shadow damage to you when they break… I usually don’t tho coz our healers are very good.

  7. 7 Galoheart August 29, 2008 at 12:59 am

    As a Paladin Tank we may be most infamous for never liking to use CC if never needed or as little as possible as long as a dangerous caster don’t exist in the group. But in any of my 5 man heroic runs a S.Priest that can MC I always love to have to MC a mob if needed. Much of the time I never need it, but knowing it’s there to be use as a option in some instances is most welcoming.

    When a Priest MC a mob in my group especially in a 5 man I’m aware and knows on release they have aggro. Most priest I usually run with knows they have nothing to worry about as ill be there to stun, taunt the mob as it’s released from MC. My favorite is just to hit BoP to the priest on MC release with aggro and as easy as that fix.

    But MC is always most welcome in my 5 man groups especially, even if I never call for it to be used.

  8. 8 pugnaciouspriest August 29, 2008 at 4:03 am

    @Cynra & Meltfacer I was never allowed to use MC and Shackle even in Hyjal – we don’t have a prob now with the waves on the 4th boss which is where the strats said it was best used.. even in the early days when we had 3 shadow p’s in one fight..
    @yeah Galoheart.. ! cam i be in your group :)


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