The buzz at the moment, is that some enchanters are stepping up now and saying that we should get to keep the shards we get from DEing loot in an instance. Its come up on my realm forums, and also recently on Wow insider – Who gets to keep the shards?
As an Enchanter I’ve done a couple of instances where I waited patiently for everyone to select their need greed pass, advised them every roll that I am greeding to DE ( because they forget and I get blasted for rolling on an item my class can’t use. ) Sigh with impatience when someone who can’t DE accidentally loots an item by needing. Make room in my bag for the shards, separate the materials I already had in there so they don’t get mixed up, notify everyone how many of each I have, field questions why there are only 2 shards and not three ( because Pug person A rolled that greed) and then dolled them all out to the rest of the party because I lost a roll. How is that fair? Its not fair. But I still do it – because it has been ‘socially unacceptable’ to say frack you, everyone greed.
Going forward that might be a better idea as some of the items vendor more then what the shard sells for.
The most interesting side to the argument has been that Skinners/miners/herbers get to keep what they gain, and we don’t.
I’ve seen DPS suffer because people have been more concerned with skinning things in VH then killing the boss.
I’ve died because people went for a node/herb in an instance and pulled a pack.
I’ve died because stupid me stood on top of a boss in an Aoe effect that continued after death and died because I couldn’t find the item to de in my bags.
I’ve never run an instance where there has been no enchanter, because I’ve always been an enchanter.
If I run with guildys most of them will pass on the shards and roll on the Abyss crystal, Or we donate to the guild bank. I’ve had a couple of pugs pass on the shards too, but only because the value of the shard is not worth the effort to list on the AH.
I agree that the system is unbalanced, if I don’t win a roll there is no incentive for me to DE barr social pressure. It would be an interesting way to start a flame war
“Anyone an enchanter?”
“Right you can de.”
Unfortunately I can’t be fracked doing it.
For some reason though I feel obligated to use my hard earned , costly trade skill to level,with no real benefit unless I camp trade channels, that I service my guildys and friends for free, a skill that it becomes useless to me once I have enchanted my own gear.
I feel obligated socially to DE stuff on demand – with no gauranteed benifit to myself. I can’t turn myself into that much of a miser to say no. Or lie, or just say nothing when the question is asked. I wish I could.
but I won’t because…..
Why – ? I actually can’t formulate an answer beyond, that is what is socially acceptable. Or Assumed its what we are supposed to do. Its like a priest that won’t heal. We are fighting a stereotype – and everyone else stands there with their hands out expecting their shard.
Could I jump on the bandwagon and shout to the hills by making public statements that I won’t be DEing any more.
I think the resulting social reaction would be interesting. I imagine it would be mainly WTF?
So I will keep DEing. I don’t agree we should keep all the shards. I also don’t agree that we do it for free, but I can’t see a way we could benefit from it beyond getting skill points/a BOP residue we could use for our own personal enchants. As the System stands. I am recommending that Enchanters put away their campaign placards, and do it, and hope that enough people pass enough times for you to feel that you have gotten something from it.
But I can implore those who are not enchanters to stop expecting it. Appreciate it. Be somewhat grateful. Be aware that this persons choice to level their enchanting , is giving you an opportunity to receive an item you wouldn’t ‘normally’ get. So at the very least. Thank the enchanter…