On Horde side on my realm in GDKP’s I have been told it’s not uncommon for there to be a loot rule of at least one random Reserve. or 1RR. This means that at any time during the run, the Raid leader & Organiser of the GDKP can say when a piece of loot drops ” Mine! – that’s my random reserve.”
Other are more specific – if” *blah* drops It’s mine, or I reserve one BOE . Someone – probably a Horde to Alliance transfer tried to reserve two BOE’s in their GDKP ad the other week. They were laughed out of trade chat. At least they were being upfront about their loot rules though. Those sorts of loot rules do not sit well on Alliance side.
Most GDKP’s go ahead without reward given to the raid leader. Other rewards are subtle, and not declared. The Goodie bag that was saved to the end of the run is forgotten about – the Primordials aren’t included as part of the auctions - sometimes it’s not their intent to forget, or the amount the primal might go for may not be consequential so it doesnt matter. I worked out that was how one frequent GDKP leader was making so many of the ICC patterns and then selling them cheaper then the AH – he was keeping the primordials
Is it fair?
A GDKP is still mostly a Pug run. We have at least one sponsored one on our side where last week the share each was 14.5 k gold. It has a waiting list. Most however you still need to sit in trade at the right time, hope another one isn’t forming at the same time, juggle your class and role needs, screen the potential peoples, balance your carrys and non carrys. Control bidding and looting and gold while in the run, run the raid, handle drama. Know strats. That’s not easy to do at the best of times.
A Guild master / Raid leader does it for free in their guild – but that’s a guild – why shouldn’t an organiser of a GDKP get compensated for their efforts?
unfortunately that is a reason for a lot of ninjas. -Their feelings of entitlement override what is ‘fair’. Fair – is making the rules upfront – and sticking to them. That way I get an informed choice.
When looking for a GDKP - a loot rule like 1RR would influence my decision to join. If the organiser – say does not have Deaths Verdict – and it’s good for his class – and he declares “1RR” then if I was after that same loot item - it means the opportunity to bid on that is gone for a week.
Reserving of much wanted items is also bad for the Pot. Heroic DFO’s in the earlier days was going for 45k gold – thats 1.8k gold each in the pot off one bid. Boe’s always sell well in GDKP’s because of their resale value on the auction house.
What sort of compensation should they get?
I find it unfair that we would pay 1k for someone to unlock heroic mode once for lootship - yet the person who ran it – gets nothing but the pleasure of 24 other peoples company and the equal chance to bids. Maybe some of the carrys are their friends.
However besides a cut of the pot – the primordials - patterns, a choice of loot, or a BOE – how do you be fair to the leader without being at least a little unfair – or depriving the remaining 24?
I would prefer that they get no reward = more things/gold for me, but I don’t believe that it’s entirely ‘fair’ but it’s certainly a preference of mine. No Funky loot rules.
What would I be ok with? – what’s ‘fair’ ?
Firstly. I would need to be informed of these rules before I started. Then I would weigh it up.
I might be ok with say a 1k payment. 40 gold each from the pot for a decent ICC run. Eg now 10/12 bosses.
Keeping the patterns from TOC/TOGC
That about covers it what I would be willing to give up to be involved in a GDKP. I’m sure a lot of people wouldn’t even agree to those. But I think they are reasonable. If that was my only choice.