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Hungering for a win

Maybe its the battlegroup,  luck, or the bracket  60-70  but the BG’s I have been slotting in-between dungeons on my Warrior  have been great xp gain ventures for me, and have proven better for XP then Random Dungeons. I also seem to be winning more then loosing – 5/5 AV victories.  8/13 AB  and not shown on that table is 1/2 wsg.

One AB match we held 3 bases for a long time.  We defended the onslaught of the horde – pushed back their offense,  and while they abandoned BS to try to take LM from us,  we snuck in behind, and capped it – forcing them back to defend their position.   It was a slow victory,  but we won, and we did it by teamwork, and communication.   

I am seeing a hunger to win in these lower level BG’s that I don’t see much in level 80’s ones.  Besides getting positive – gooey – I kicked the horde butt feeling you get from winning a BG. Lobie Bg’s give you Honor, Rep, and XP,  while at 80 your just after honor and rep.   We level faster when we win.

My first pvp experience in WSG as a Prot Warrior when I was under 20 was rather depressing.   Run up to target getting pummelled by range.  Have no rage – smack them once, and die.  Getting charge in Prot stance has made Bging a lot more fun.

I had a purpose for doing BG’s . I had my first lust for Shield – 13k honor  Grand Marshals Aegis not only does it seem to be an awesome stat’d shield for my level  65 now – It is shiny. As in Really shiny.  In the sunlight in game it has this sheen to it that is dazzling.  It’s rather factionotic  ( I know this is not a word,  but was trying to come up with something similar to patriotic.)  and see I am keeping my Victory count on the side of my shield.

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5 things for Friday

1. I will write more on my Dedicated server stance.  I need to do some more reading  to back up my argument,  I want to  consider things like the effects of language, and region on progression in raids, and arena. 

If a dedicated real oceanic server did happen – than the player base becomes more concentrated – than language will affect who you play with – Eg just look at EU WOW. Servers and guilds have become ‘language – centric’.    I guess I’m letting the cat out of the bag on an unwritten post – but I want to spend some time on the issue,  and I think it’s big enough and important enough to present a well thought out case then just a random ‘ I don’t want….”  Like I did in my previous post.

  Do the majority of people who play in Oceanic actually need a server that will deliver more precise actions. Are we underrepresented in things like Arena, and progressive raiding,  and  would having less lag  encourage more people to get serious about those things?   

2.  I’ve had a few attempts on LK in 10’s,   but when the tank is tanking him in defile.  We have issues.  BUT!   I killed the King on 25’s with my new guild.  They are old hats at it.  No I wasn’t  noob enough to release when LK killed us all,  though my complete and utter shock  at the raid blowing up  probably made me look like I hadn’t even read about the encounter.   I did I promise!  But being there and dying unexpectedly is still a massive shock because my first thought was something had happened to wipe the raid.

3.  Devouring Plague spamming in BG is awesome.  I can crit up to 4.5 K damage on a DP inital damage,  and it’s not dispelable if I am spamming it chasing you across the BG.  So shadow priest hot on your heals  Shadow Word deathing you on CD,  Doting you up with SWP, throwing a fiend at you, and spamming DP.  You better be a healing class with hots, and a lot of health. Cause your going down. MWHAHAHAHA

4. I got globally muted on a vent. When I was on my healing Alt in a GDKP.  It’s my fault. I told the player if he wasn’t going to stop saying a certain word  repetitively I would ignore him.  Imagine wiping on Rot Heroic, and all you can hear just over the raid leaders instructions is  Pen*s Pen*s Pen*s Pen*s Pen*s Pen*sPen*s Pen*sPen*s Pen*sPen*s Pen*sPen*s Pen*sPen*s Pen*sPen*s Pen*sPen*s Pen*sPen*s Pen*sPen*s Pen*sPen*s Pen*sPen*s Pen*sPen*s Pen*s

It wasn’t even the word that annoyed me,  it was the timing  – and it’s repetitiveness.  I wasn’t the first, nor the last to tell him to quit it,  but I was the only girl who spoke.  He was a vent admin. Result = Me globally muted for the rest of the raid. 

That same raid,  when another female spoke for the very first time after some discussions on why we were wiping on Princes,  was told to “Shut up you W*ore” and some other choice words.

Yet regardless of what I think was undeserved treatment  me and her still stuck the raid out, and got our share of the GDKP pot.   It was a pug,  but it was run by someone who should have better control because of the guild tag he wore  – and he didn’t control not only the behaviour directed at us,  but let the raid rip each other apart on various things the entire time we were in there.

This is where I wish recording vent conversations didn’t breach our telecommunications survellience acts  ( topic for another day)

My principles are worth less than a pot of around 4800 gold each.  But I wasn’t going to leave and reward them with a greater share.  Then they would have won.

5.

Would you listen to me if it wasn’t about WOW?  I don’t really expect an answer,  just that I have been adding as many non wow blogs to my reader as I have wow blogs, and I have found so many interesting people talking about stuff!  I guess definitions of interesting vary between people. 

No No No..   I not quitting Wow blogging I am as addicted to blogging as I am gaming.

My epiphany has been that it’s a little sad that my gaming experiences  are  more relevant, and interesting to an audience then thoughts on more important things.  But I am sure those important things wouldn’t be half as entertaining.

Iron man and PVP Mussings.

The Irony is I got Ironman yesterday.  The achievement where you cap the three flags in one wsg  – I’ve done 2 flags a few times, but never tried for the 3rd

I really wasn’t trying – I just wanted to win the Bg, and if no one else was gonna try,   I was.

No one else was trying for the flag,   not sure where  most of the horde were,  but I managed to survive the trip down their tunnel, cross midfield, and to cap the flag 3 times – just had to fear the horde guarding the flag room,   survive  to the speed buff in the alcove,  and go for gold – Fear, disperse, Health pot, trinket, fear.

A few people had their orphans out,   I’m assuming their lack of direction, and confusion as to what to do with an enemy nicking their flag contributed to the win.

I also feel as prompted  by a commenter on my last post to remind you in full disclosure  – that I am going after Justicar,  Exalted Rep with the three Pvp Factions.  Yes that’s an achievement – and I think probably  the only title I want to wear where I get it.

It’s been a slow journey – Counted by flags.

I’m sitting on 100 flags to go. 17472/21000 as I write this.

I enjoy Pvp – I didn’t pvp on my priest untill I was 70 – and then it was only done because I worked out I could get my first purple that way – it scared me – I was confused,  pvpers were a different breed of player,   then back in BC  there were Raiders,  Pvpers, and everyone else.

I was thinking about why I enjoy pvp,  and why there are times I don’t.

Each battleground opens up to a new random set of possibilities,  personalities,  goals,   loves, hates, frustrations,  ulterior motives and unique sets of goals.

The one thing that usually binds all of those people together is the desire to win.   Winning satisfies  all those goals – the person after a daily, after honor, or in the old days badges , the pvp achievements  they all follow the natural desire and need to win, and accomplish the goals of the BG.

Perhaps my pursuit of the 35 rep that each flag brings when capped,  requiring me to win as many WSG’s as possible to obtain  could be compared to the needs of  the School of Hard knocks – it is only an achievement after all.  Lolpoints.  My ‘need’ to win a bg is an important  as those who don’t care about winning the Bg.

Doing premades might be good for honor farming  – it might get me my single goal quicker – but then I miss out on most of the randomness – and the rising above the people who afk,  honor farm,  to accomplish,  and achieve that win.   That’s what  I love and hate  about pvp the challenge.  Even though there are been bg’s and people that have massively p’d me off – I still go back.

Maybe its hypercritical to be so vocal against the pursuit of an achievement and still chase one of my own but it’s never been the chasing of the achievement that’s the problem – just how its done so I can live with that hypocrisy.

Get the heck out of my BG

“Just let ME get my achievement “ says one person.

But it’s not just you I explain,  it’s every single person queuing for WSG this week.

If this achievement means so much to you – do it in a premade,  where you are not inflicting your decision to stuff up a game of pvp  because you have to have that  point. It’s not like you stick around for after you get the achievement – you’re the first to leave the bg because you came for what you wanted.

Don’t blame me,  it’s blizzards fault”

No. It’s your fault for not taking your achievements serious enough to actually think ahead and plan for this.   Its easier done when you have a whole team wanting to achieve what you do – or shock horror you can actually earn it as intended!

The Horde are not your friends.   Alliance if your horde are not your Allies.  We are opposing factions.  We kill each other.  Yes?

I am not going to be nice,  and say sure.  Mr 1067 player for this week so far.  You are special.  Im going to wait patiently for 25 min to win a game of WSG because your playing lets see who can drop the flag for the hordies.

Can I stop playing WSG this week because my game has been interfered with to the extent that its impossible to play a game – sure,  but it’s more fun to try and round up the people who actually care about winning,  care enough to try, care enough to play, and do it as it should be done.

If you are collaborating with the enemy so you can get another 10 points then do you even deserve to call it an achievement. Your cheating.

Yes you are.  You are cheating

You haven’t achieved anything – your kidding your self if you think you have.  You’ve not chased down an enemy flag carrier  and killed him – and if that’s how you got your achievement then you have earned, and played it as it should be.

Yes I’m Mad.

A premade of 5 does not equal team work

On entering the BG, in the flag room we were told  5 man ‘premade in vent – clear the middle we are going for flag

5 people in tandem went and got the flag – protected the flag on the way and then turtled the flag in the flag room and as far as they were concerned were doing their job by sticking unfailing to each other and the flag.

It still took us till the timer  25 min  to win with only 2 flags.  Did we win – sure.  But they were so stuck in their little group that they didn’t try to prevent our flag being taken on their way back down.  Their only goal was to get the flag.  Not kill the horde flag carrier who ran just a little to the left of their group because it wasn’t their self designation job.

When I asked was anyone trying to  go for our flag the leader said

“My Team is with me and the flag”

2 people as soon as they saw premade went and  started honor farming at the horde graveyard.  Died, and went back and did it again – so there was me going for the flag,   one person who got reported for AFK – and the last person was alternating between suicide runs and trying to hang out with the 5 to protect the flag,

Horde decided to turtle,  so getting back our flag was proving to be impossible.

The Fabulous five were being so narrow minded in their strat – and even claimed the reason for victory as being all thanks to them.

The biggest advantage that a premade on vent has over a group of pugs is that they can communicate a lot faster.  Offer reports on flag status,  incommings,  outgoing,  Yet there was no communication necessary for them.  they were like drones. It was kind of funny watching their little yellow dots on the BG map sticking so close to each other  – any information they had wasn’t communicated to the BG  – they didn’t care about what else was going on – didn’t ask who was going for the flag – or get involved in our discussion about how to get around the turtle with two people going for a flag.  They had done their job,  and that was it.

I don’t understand why  they are willing to wait 25 min a bg to win,  when they have a premade advantage and could have used that  better than having tea party’s in the flag room.

Social Media – Bloggers and Blizzard

Theres a recent Mashable article ” How to Target Social Media Influencers to Boost traffic and sales”   Basically  – find out  who your 1%  are – What they like to share  –  where they hang out –  what motivates them – and make them famous.     The article says

On average, approximately 1% of a site’s audience generates 20% of all its traffic through sharing of the brand’s content or site links with others. And these “influencers” drive an even higher share of conversion. These very important Internet users can directly influence 30% or more of overall end actions on brand websites by recommending the brand’s site, products or promotions to friends.

Now this is  relevent because Larisa asks “Has Blizzard put the Wow blogging community on Ignore”  and she has noticed that community sites,  including bloggers are severely underrepresented in Blizzards Fan site  program. Two of the 4 reasons Blizzard gave  as to why not  are  “Limited Interest they hold to the community, and the big amount of them”  This makes sence when you look at a social media marketing model.

Remember that Map of the World of Warcraft online communities Map by Tim Howgego this was done back in 2008 – so it may have changed by now – “The South West of the Map is dominated by the ‘Blog-o-sphere” but only one blog  Wow Insider ( now wow.com)  is named

If you look at that  Community Map,  it really puts into perspective who else is out there.  Blogging about WOW is only one way Wow players are expressing their love of a game.  We are still little fish, in a big ocean.

Larisa points out that some bloggers have gotten a nod from Blizzard, but those who have,  BRK, Resto4life  and I will  even add  Breanni, from Warcraftpets   a fan site – maybe they are our 1%   – Blizzard have immortalised these bloggers / players  –  created legends  given connection to the rest of us and hope  that one day – maybe Blizzard will notice us – and name a gun after us.   ( The Pugnacious Collar is not mine – pure co-incidence – as if they would give me a non Spell power neck. )

They don’t need to give more bloggers  love.  We will still love them regardless, and the messages / fame /  that they do give to the 1% will be enough – because  that  social media market model theories that by reaching that 1% you are reaching and influencing 30%  – you don’t need to acknowledge even the top 10% to get your message across.

5 (Not 6) reasons not to kill someone in a BG

In a Battleground, you see the enemy, the red tag indicating a target, and the hunter in you unfurls,  your animalistic instinct to fight rises, nostrils flare, adrenalin pumps through your body, pupils dilate, and your hand grips your mouse in fevour, your focus becomes narrow.

You want to chase them down –   You want to feel the last dregs of their health taken away by your spell, your weapon swipe – and hear their final cry as their pixels collapse at your feet in a heap.

*snap

That was the sound of the elastic from your BG Blinkers smacking into the back of your head 

Sometimes not killing someone is strategically better.

So here are some reasons not to kill someone in a BG – Ignore them, or CC them instead.

1. They will rez full health and mana – quite possibly in several seconds and only a few feet away.

2. Your’re paying attention to them rather than doing what you should be doing. Look! your flag just ran past, or the tower just capped under your nose.

3.  They have no mana anyways. ( doesn’t mean that they aren’t dangerous,  just that another target could be more deserving of your attention)

4. They are actually AFK standing in the flag room.  Killing them might wake them up that something important has been going on, and that they need to pay attention. An afk enemy is one less person you have to deal with, and one more than for the enemy to get frustrated over.

5. CC pee’s people off more – encourages them to play irrationally.   Sheeped, Turtled, Catted,  Slowed,  Frozen.

6. You stop getting decent honor on kills if they keep dying so much and you try to farm them.

Edited as per below comment about DR.  I would swear..  that I read something about Hk’s getting DR

I tried to come up with 8   – didn’t quite work.

Who’s Watching you – Me! ( only in Bg’s though… )

I love Mind Visioning people in BG’s ( As long as I don’t get too distracted at my flag Babysitting post.)  I also use it to find the flag carrier in WSG – my DBM shows the name of the FC and I can click on it.  So If I am quick enough I can Vision – and say.. he is hiding/running   *blah*

When people notice they have been mind visioned they often stop what they are doing,  hesitating when they are fighting or riding, as if to look around over their shoulder, thinking, who’s looking at me?

The mind vision stays there,  like a bad fly hovering.  They know I can see them, and are watching through their eyes.

Often they will jump, as if physically trying to shake the mind vision off – or they will do something silly like dance .  Thank – you to the Tauren warriors who provide me with much entertainment.

Sometimes I linger.  A voyeur – watching them partly to annoy those who can’t get rid of it,  sometimes I only peek  because I use them to bounce to another player out of my personal range to see whats happening over there.  Awesome to use in AV

When someone Mind Visions me,  I automatically shadow meld, and it drops. A rogues Vanish, or A Ne’s Meld will make  me lose my vision.

I must admit it’s kind of creepy, being watched.  Knowing what you are doing in game is being watched – and I can imagine the frustration  those who have MV on them feel because they  can’t get rid of it.

Mr GM she’s watching me…   tell her to stop. *whine* 

Priests don’t use it often though,   I imagine hunters would use their eagle eye, or eyes of the beast less, as with  Warlocks their Eye  – There doesn’t seem to be a mass use of long distance vision in the game, and even then the DBM thing with the WSG flag carriers might even be misusing the ability – by dbm making them easier to target.

What is with the NE Ghost form? It’s a BE Face!

Ever zoomed in on your ghost form if you’re  a Night Elf?  Can anyone explain how I ended up with is either a BE MALE face,  or a manga cartoon reject.  I got to take some screen shots because I was dying so much in WSG.

Your non Shadow form has its own bar

I am hoping this isn’t a common misconception,    but you should know that when you come out of shadow form, and you are in shadow spec you get 1 new bar – I have healing spells on that bar and some basic damage ones because If Im out of Shadow I’m most probably emergency healing anyway.   I was healing the bg,  and my Rankwatch mod had been telling him to fix some of his spells.

He starting complaining about the Bg, and people,  and I spoke up.  Yes I probably was being overbearing – but some of his spells were the wrong ranks, and he was under the impression that it was just because he was out of shadow form spells and it was ok.

I tried to appeal to his common sence,  why would you lose spell ranks when you lose form? – But no..  I needed to get a life.  Before the BG ends I tried to explain again,  and I said look just lose ur shadow form  – and check your ranks.

That bar obviously has the same problem that duel specs does

I hope he does  – and when he finds out I was right feels a little bit of shame.

Yes I told him he failed at Shadow Priesting

/hangs head.

I’m not always a nice priest.


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