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The battle has ended – This battleground will close in 2 min

Have you ever stayed at a club long enough to get kicked out? It’s kind sad – you never want to be the first to arrive to a empty dance floor ( unless your there to stake the pool tables out) and nor do you want to be the last to leave,  kicked out by the bouncer. It’s just not kool.

Once a BG ends no one stays around that 2 min to gloat,  or cheer about a victory. You may have just overcome the worst odds to achieve greatness with awesome teamwork, proven the naysayers wrong ” Omg no one here is over 5k GS – we are going to lose.”  ( well we won that one one anyway *blows raspberry) but no one gets to cheer about  the victory – everyone has already left.

Often there is no warning you are about to achieve a victory – you still locked in combat – when suddenly your dots stop ticking,  your weapons  return to their sheaths  and  your combat embrace freezes, and the  battle has ended score chart fills up your screen. It’s too late to even say “Hey awesome job guys!”  No one is there to see.

Hello!

Is there anyone out there..

Somebody…
Please…

You have won, or lost, and you leave as quickly as possible.

You see a sports team after a victory patting each other on the back, engaging in manly hugs that don’t touch fronts  – or some jumping around big smiles on their faces.

When we win a battleground,  there is no time for expressions of joy and elation. We slink off to our own realms stoic. Ho hum..

Would more people Pvp if they could get a sense of accomplishment from it?

I still think its kind of amazing how quickly a flock of sheep players who don’t know each other, can work together to achieve a goal, and victory.  Sometimes it just works – you click together as a team, and sometimes it doesn’t  and enough finger pointing happens in the game that 2 more minutes with those people isn’t going to accomplish anything. On those rare occasions when you do have that perfect synergy.  It’s sad when it ends. Because they are the battles I look forward to, and hope to find in the myriad of crap.

It’s a shame we  don’t have the option to keep the same team going into another battle, much like we can do in LFG’s

This sentiment is because between now and Cata I’ll be in BG’s a lot .   Raw gems still sell well, and I am 36500 odd honor kills away from  “Of the Alliance”  I might see how much of a dent I can make in it in the next few weeks because I am running out of things I want to do.

I am back to holy priest healing in BG’s again in a mix of Pve/Pvp healing gear  cause I am working on the theory that healers following people who need healing means that they are killing things   = more Honor kills. Means I am being productive in a BG without HK farming the in the middle.  Grrrrrr.    I tried doing some more Av Premades,  the honor was awesome, the Hk’s not so, and it sounds kind of bad but the best thing for Hk’s is a Av Turtle, but yes the object of the BG is to win first.  Hk’s 2nd.

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The WSG flag is not a personal shield

Something that peeves me off greatly is the flag carrying hero in wsg – 

I don’t care anymore that you’re not the right class, or don’t have enough HP, or resilience, Kudos to you for picking the flag up while everyone else was fighting in the middle.  ( unless you took it when a  better class/person was right there. It’s not worth arguing with people if they pick up the flag and they shouldnt anymore. Telling you to drop it in the middle of a spectacular melee is just as dangerous as letting you carry it sometimes.  So the rest of the team works with what they have got.

But if you want to be a successful carrier there are things you must not do and  one of them is to run back at the opposing team.  You have healers trying to keep you up,  DPS trying to slow down the people chasing you so you can get free, and then what do you do. RUN BACK INTO THE MELEE  yelling ”  STICK TOGETHER TEAM”

Getting the flag to the other end isn’t always just a matter of killing things.   It can be as simple as distracting everyone else so the flag carrier can get free.

I know this is not a new revelation, but carrying the flag does not make you a pvp tank with special abilities, you are as squishy as you were before, and you need to do as much to keep yourself alive , as everyone else is trying to.

Oh, and if your going to Bark your strat in EOS  – and the jump off the rock with half health. Stop, and heal yourself, missing the offensive wave you tried to send people on, and then scream that we are nubs because we can’t follow a strat.  Learn to Jump off the rock before you teach others battleplans.

Hungering for a win

Maybe its the battlegroup,  luck, or the bracket  60-70  but the BG’s I have been slotting in-between dungeons on my Warrior  have been great xp gain ventures for me, and have proven better for XP then Random Dungeons. I also seem to be winning more then loosing – 5/5 AV victories.  8/13 AB  and not shown on that table is 1/2 wsg.

One AB match we held 3 bases for a long time.  We defended the onslaught of the horde – pushed back their offense,  and while they abandoned BS to try to take LM from us,  we snuck in behind, and capped it – forcing them back to defend their position.   It was a slow victory,  but we won, and we did it by teamwork, and communication.   

I am seeing a hunger to win in these lower level BG’s that I don’t see much in level 80’s ones.  Besides getting positive – gooey – I kicked the horde butt feeling you get from winning a BG. Lobie Bg’s give you Honor, Rep, and XP,  while at 80 your just after honor and rep.   We level faster when we win.

My first pvp experience in WSG as a Prot Warrior when I was under 20 was rather depressing.   Run up to target getting pummelled by range.  Have no rage – smack them once, and die.  Getting charge in Prot stance has made Bging a lot more fun.

I had a purpose for doing BG’s . I had my first lust for Shield – 13k honor  Grand Marshals Aegis not only does it seem to be an awesome stat’d shield for my level  65 now – It is shiny. As in Really shiny.  In the sunlight in game it has this sheen to it that is dazzling.  It’s rather factionotic  ( I know this is not a word,  but was trying to come up with something similar to patriotic.)  and see I am keeping my Victory count on the side of my shield.

Iron man and PVP Mussings.

The Irony is I got Ironman yesterday.  The achievement where you cap the three flags in one wsg  – I’ve done 2 flags a few times, but never tried for the 3rd

I really wasn’t trying – I just wanted to win the Bg, and if no one else was gonna try,   I was.

No one else was trying for the flag,   not sure where  most of the horde were,  but I managed to survive the trip down their tunnel, cross midfield, and to cap the flag 3 times – just had to fear the horde guarding the flag room,   survive  to the speed buff in the alcove,  and go for gold – Fear, disperse, Health pot, trinket, fear.

A few people had their orphans out,   I’m assuming their lack of direction, and confusion as to what to do with an enemy nicking their flag contributed to the win.

I also feel as prompted  by a commenter on my last post to remind you in full disclosure  – that I am going after Justicar,  Exalted Rep with the three Pvp Factions.  Yes that’s an achievement – and I think probably  the only title I want to wear where I get it.

It’s been a slow journey – Counted by flags.

I’m sitting on 100 flags to go. 17472/21000 as I write this.

I enjoy Pvp – I didn’t pvp on my priest untill I was 70 – and then it was only done because I worked out I could get my first purple that way – it scared me – I was confused,  pvpers were a different breed of player,   then back in BC  there were Raiders,  Pvpers, and everyone else.

I was thinking about why I enjoy pvp,  and why there are times I don’t.

Each battleground opens up to a new random set of possibilities,  personalities,  goals,   loves, hates, frustrations,  ulterior motives and unique sets of goals.

The one thing that usually binds all of those people together is the desire to win.   Winning satisfies  all those goals – the person after a daily, after honor, or in the old days badges , the pvp achievements  they all follow the natural desire and need to win, and accomplish the goals of the BG.

Perhaps my pursuit of the 35 rep that each flag brings when capped,  requiring me to win as many WSG’s as possible to obtain  could be compared to the needs of  the School of Hard knocks – it is only an achievement after all.  Lolpoints.  My ‘need’ to win a bg is an important  as those who don’t care about winning the Bg.

Doing premades might be good for honor farming  – it might get me my single goal quicker – but then I miss out on most of the randomness – and the rising above the people who afk,  honor farm,  to accomplish,  and achieve that win.   That’s what  I love and hate  about pvp the challenge.  Even though there are been bg’s and people that have massively p’d me off – I still go back.

Maybe its hypercritical to be so vocal against the pursuit of an achievement and still chase one of my own but it’s never been the chasing of the achievement that’s the problem – just how its done so I can live with that hypocrisy.

Get the heck out of my BG

“Just let ME get my achievement “ says one person.

But it’s not just you I explain,  it’s every single person queuing for WSG this week.

If this achievement means so much to you – do it in a premade,  where you are not inflicting your decision to stuff up a game of pvp  because you have to have that  point. It’s not like you stick around for after you get the achievement – you’re the first to leave the bg because you came for what you wanted.

Don’t blame me,  it’s blizzards fault”

No. It’s your fault for not taking your achievements serious enough to actually think ahead and plan for this.   Its easier done when you have a whole team wanting to achieve what you do – or shock horror you can actually earn it as intended!

The Horde are not your friends.   Alliance if your horde are not your Allies.  We are opposing factions.  We kill each other.  Yes?

I am not going to be nice,  and say sure.  Mr 1067 player for this week so far.  You are special.  Im going to wait patiently for 25 min to win a game of WSG because your playing lets see who can drop the flag for the hordies.

Can I stop playing WSG this week because my game has been interfered with to the extent that its impossible to play a game – sure,  but it’s more fun to try and round up the people who actually care about winning,  care enough to try, care enough to play, and do it as it should be done.

If you are collaborating with the enemy so you can get another 10 points then do you even deserve to call it an achievement. Your cheating.

Yes you are.  You are cheating

You haven’t achieved anything – your kidding your self if you think you have.  You’ve not chased down an enemy flag carrier  and killed him – and if that’s how you got your achievement then you have earned, and played it as it should be.

Yes I’m Mad.

A premade of 5 does not equal team work

On entering the BG, in the flag room we were told  5 man ‘premade in vent – clear the middle we are going for flag

5 people in tandem went and got the flag – protected the flag on the way and then turtled the flag in the flag room and as far as they were concerned were doing their job by sticking unfailing to each other and the flag.

It still took us till the timer  25 min  to win with only 2 flags.  Did we win – sure.  But they were so stuck in their little group that they didn’t try to prevent our flag being taken on their way back down.  Their only goal was to get the flag.  Not kill the horde flag carrier who ran just a little to the left of their group because it wasn’t their self designation job.

When I asked was anyone trying to  go for our flag the leader said

“My Team is with me and the flag”

2 people as soon as they saw premade went and  started honor farming at the horde graveyard.  Died, and went back and did it again – so there was me going for the flag,   one person who got reported for AFK – and the last person was alternating between suicide runs and trying to hang out with the 5 to protect the flag,

Horde decided to turtle,  so getting back our flag was proving to be impossible.

The Fabulous five were being so narrow minded in their strat – and even claimed the reason for victory as being all thanks to them.

The biggest advantage that a premade on vent has over a group of pugs is that they can communicate a lot faster.  Offer reports on flag status,  incommings,  outgoing,  Yet there was no communication necessary for them.  they were like drones. It was kind of funny watching their little yellow dots on the BG map sticking so close to each other  – any information they had wasn’t communicated to the BG  – they didn’t care about what else was going on – didn’t ask who was going for the flag – or get involved in our discussion about how to get around the turtle with two people going for a flag.  They had done their job,  and that was it.

I don’t understand why  they are willing to wait 25 min a bg to win,  when they have a premade advantage and could have used that  better than having tea party’s in the flag room.

Weekend round up.

and then..  and then.. and then…

I did stuff.

Got kicked out of HOR

Got Glory of the Hero   ( Finally)  and a red proto drake.  Apparently you can roll need  on orbs if your group is  5 premade.  We had to pug the 5th spot for a couple of the achieves we had left, and in telling them we were doing *blah*  one pug was like ” Do I have a choice?”  and nope – 1/2 an hour wait – or a  instance run with massively overgeared people and an achievement to boot.  What do you think he picked ?  He stayed of course.

Got that little bit closer to Justicar-  248 flags to go and I keep running into an ex flatmate/friend in WSG from another server. It’s kind of funny because I don’t see them them for months and months, and thenI run into them at the supermarket after work, and then I keep seeing them in WSG. If you were a believer in the Celestine prophesy then you would say that they have a ‘message for me,  or I them’ and fate shall keep throwing us at each other untill we work out what piece of information we need to pass on.    Or it could just be that we both like/have to do WSG. 

I won more then lost  – alternating between heals and Dps as I got bored of one.   Sometimes ended up healing as shadow as required anyway – I know healers are important in a Bg, but I love to Pvp, and chasing  flag  carriers like a obedient puppy dog is not fun.  The Grind to Justicar is long and hard, would rather lose  more ( does not mean camped)  and play – then grind, and never want to set foot in a Bg again.  I’m not big on achievements,  but this one means / will mean a lot to me – it’s supposed to represent something I love to do- rather than an achievement for the sake of an extra few points.

Pugged a 10 man ICC on main. 

Got told ” It’s good that girls play wow” by a pug rogue in one of the chattiest Pugs 10 man ICC’s I have ever been in.  ( I listened mostly – promise!  except adding suggestions for strats  – Like get on Marrowgars Hitbox)  I ended up putting down a few fish feasts just to get them to eat ( I find it amazing the amount of people still who ‘raid’ without food and flasks.)  

We got the first 4 bosses, and we did Heroic Gunship, Rot, fester, and Princes. Heroic Midnight Sun dropped on gunship – it went to the Shammy healer.  Better for him..  but it still would have been an 100 sp upgrade for me, and they has asked me to go 3rd healer after the first wing – so technically I probably could have called at least a fair shot on it because  a) it was a pug,  b) they did want me to heal c)  it was a significant upgrade . I didn’t kick up a fuss bar – I’ll have it if he doesn’t want it.  Mp5 is a wasted stat,  but 100 sp!  – I am allowed to lust after it – but I would have been upset if I were the Shammy.  

I might be getting a regular Gdkp 25 – and there is a pug 10’s group forming  every 5 min  ( ok not that often) but almost! – So there is no lack of opportunity.  Just need to work on making some more gold so I can bid the stupid amounts some of the things are going for in GDKP.

Thats the most exciting of the Wow stuff for the weekend – Hope yours was as fun


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