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Disc Priests now come with pet Rogues

Well at least in rated BG’s they do.

One of the more popular strats which seem to pop up more in the mid MMR ratings is the assigning of cc to an enemy healer.  Rogues get put on disc priests.  One on one,  I can make killing me a rather long and drawn out process.  If I concentrate on keeping myself alive I can keep a rogue occupied for quite some time.  ( I have Goldshire dueling cred for doing exactly that)  but if you put a Rogue on me when I am trying to heal everyone, and dispel as often as possible. Well,  that annoying little creature that has suddenly grown attached to the back of my robe is a pain in the butt.

PEEL! Please.

We did a rated the other night and one of the teams we faced were hacking.   RL took a video  and posted it to youtube  here  it also got posted on the realm forum that the hackers came from and their GM has assured everyone it’s being dealt with.  They were apparently unaware that their team was hacking until that BG,  maybe they had gotten maps where flying up in the air wasn’t advantageous.

We lost.  Did we lose because they were hacking,  not quite, though it was a contributing factor  we lost because we couldn’t concentrate  when there were priests flying through the air,  or players with their heads sticking out of the ground, you’re looking for enemies in all the wrong places. Their hacking gave them some unfair advantages which lost us nodes, like capping underground – if we had focused better we could have beat them.

We all lost points to losing to them. We lost team synergy. We are all bloody annoyed.

I have been trying to pursue rated BG’s with the passion of someone who has nothing left to do in Wow at the moment.  The new strategy of rolling an alt and standing in SW and listening to trade on somewhere like Tich netted me 2 rather very quick invites  to a xrealm rated team. If people are logging onto alts to recruit for these teams,  why not go to these realms to be recruited.

The problem with xrealm and xrealm pugs is that at least half the team are either drunk.  tired or stoned on the weekend. Those things never affect your performance do they…

It’s also throwing yourself into a group of random strangers  – sometimes sharing real ID, and more lately Skype information and hoping it all goes well, and the party doesn’t fall apart due to massive failure after waiting around in group for 1/2 an hour while they recruit the perfect team class combination.

There is also a worry, or concern that they won’t think you did good enough.   100 + dispels, and outhealing the Pally healer.  Is that good enough?   Did you call that you were being focused too much,  or not enough,  because no one else looks at health bars but the healers. Are they going to point the fingers at the healers, or the DPS when it all goes down.

I had a few good runs,  and some bad ones.

I even took over leading one when we got into an AB and there was no plan or leader.   I had no idea what specs we had or the  gear they were wearing.  I wrongly assumed that there had been some consideration as to who was invited.  I was recruited from trade , but  half of them had never done a rated before.
It didn’t end pretty – well they followed directions, and we managed to keep two bases for most of the game, which means they point lead wasn’t as bad – just we didn’t have the strength to break their defenses on a 3rd.

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They promised me Rated’s

After wandering around Guildless for a few weeks trying to work out what I wanted to do, I joined a Pvp guild, because they promised me rated BG’s.

Yes it’s bad timing –  end of season,  but since leaving Proudmoore, and the ‘secret pvpers chat channel’ where we used to be able to recruit for things like rateds or semi premades  I have been lacking for a decent pvp company.   It was getting so bad I was even healing anyone who asked  through 2’s arena for point caps.
It’s been bumpy so far.   3 hours of waiting, or  waiting on a Cross realm recruiting “Does anyone have a prot warrior?”  – Skype and mic issues, people having to use real ID to add the RL for the xrealms – people who leave mid BG when we are down 200 resources. and then we spend 30min recruiting a replacement after a devastating loss in the BG because two people left.  When recruiting there have been people who want to be carried or guaranteed a win, people afraid of losing their current rating. Or just no one wanting to do rateds.

We need more people who want to have a decent shot at not only doing rateds,  but team building as well so that we get better and know how to work together. We have had several nights of people cycling through,  some better then others,  and we have even later faced people we have played with in other Rateds. ( and Beat them.  Most satisfying. )

I also got OMG a girl comment. ” I’ve never had a girl in my rated bg before” by what turned out to be seasoned rated bg player on a big US pvp server  ( which is more surprising surely then a 12 year old on a quite  oceanic right?.   Where are you girls?  – Get into Rated Bg’s!.

I know your supposed to use all the tools available to you, especially in a Rated BG- much like a mage uses slow fall off the rock in EOS, or a hunter goes invis so you can’t range target them, but I always feel a little sneaky using Mind Vision

I spy on the enemy team before the BG starts -(It puts them off their game  :P ) – and this is easily done using Battleground Targets the add on, but where ever you are,  If I can target you with Battleground Targets,  then I can find you.

I can tell my team how many of you are trying to sneak around the back way in WW or coming over the hill to LH

Where the flag carrier is coming out in WSG – and where he tries to hide with the flag, how many healers he has with him ect..

I feel this  is a slightly unfair advantage.  Mind Vision is not available in arena  ( though I would have less use for it in there anyway) In a Rated Bg we won in the Battle for Gilneas by floating, we were able to float between LH and WW and I spent some of my time confirming, or reporting potential attacks.

It’s also rather Voyeuristic .

Speaking of Voyeurism

Our Rated RL/GM has been dragging me into arenas – and live streaming them.  The most viewers we had apparently were 11. I have mixed feelings about our Skype Conversations/Games being live streamed. I am not  really  comfortable being part of the entertainment.

I wouldn’t want to watch a live streamed Arena, especially at our level ( 3’s skirting 1550 at the moment – in early days..  working on it.. working on it… )  So I am not sure why other people would want to watch us.  If we get better,  can keep a regular 3’s team then maybe – but again, it’s the end of the season, and we aren’t that great.

There was also this odd obligation to feel like I needed to provide some kind of banter to the people who were watching while we were waiting for Pop, or for the Arena to start.  It wasn’t a radio show,  but I couldn’t help feel like it was. ( with a very small audience )   I also don’t think things like  “Dispel me!  and me replying something along the lines of  – I would if I wasn’t running away in a fear right now,  or me saying, get this Rogue off me., makes for what I would consider entertainment.

And there is all this extra pressure not to lose  and make stupid mistakes. ( we lost viewers when we lost games)

One of the Queue breaks saw someone waving and cheering at us telling us the last game ‘was a good win’   and me not thinking said, ‘Oh he is watching us,  that’s a little creepy’ and of course he heard it on the live stream,

Not the right thing to say to people who are cheering you on, and are of your limited audience. ( I’m sorry.. )

Robe deep in the trenches of Rated BG’s

Still here, still playing, still logging in,  but I am logging out a lot earlier,  and a lot more often

Besides trying my luck healing some Za’s/Zg’s my most recent  passion has been Rated Battlegrounds. I had considered trying to find a guild that did them regularly in my peak times.  I even considered moving back to Oceanic servers to do it,  but most of the guilds recruiting where either hardcore into it already and I had no real ‘experience’ in a rated bg to offer,  or  they were in the recruiting phase, and unfortunately,  it’s like the very new level 1 guilds that start up with the ambition ” When we have enough people we are going to start raiding/rated bg’s”   You could be waiting a very long time.

As Disc Heals  I went on Trade pug runs,  found a couple of  groups that  tried to run them regularly, and get  a good core team,  but half their games were while I was at work, and I was having to tell random trade pug people also newly stepping into the rated BG team that  – a) they needed pvp gear,  and b) epic 1 on 1 battles in midfield are not productive.

Got thrown into some better rated teams because they always need heals, so that gave me a little boost in rating, and got me invited to better groups. Also managed to go to a couple of Guild rated runs on their off raiding nights to try to get some people started on their ratings, and  if anyone was LF Healer RBG I was like “me!!:  3.5/4k resil disc priest and whatever rating I had managed to scrape up at the time.

As an Aussie on an American server most teams have been only able to keep together for a couple of games.  The time zone and country differences usually mean at least one person has to leave to go to bed,  or have dinner, or go to work, or something,  but I have cobbled together a 1626 rating.  Aiming for the higher ended teams now

There were some bad pugs.  I submitted myself to a what felt like a rather intrusive gear inspection at a fountain,  I had nothing to hide,  but there is still something humiliating to have to stand still near someone while they spend what seemed like an eternity running their mouse cursor through your slots. It was the most detailed inspection I had been through,  and it was the worse team. If I had known they had planned on two healing straight up I would have politely declined.  I am sure that two healing is a valid strat, and while me and a druid healer,  healed our little hearts out,  keeping two healers cc’d is a lot easier than three, (  and some rateds we have come across run 4 on flag carrying maps )especially with the reduction in the classes able to dispel that cc. Not only do ” healers need to die first” and thus we became the prime targets,  trying to keep each other alive, and cc’d free in addition to healing I felt was a terrible way to do it, and it was no suprise when that team only lasted one game before disintegrating.

One of the weekends I was barking ( yes barking) strats to people in Call to arms normal BG to try to end the cycle of infinite losses that Alliance seemed to be suffering that weekend – someone picked on my win/loss ratio on the Rateds, and yes,  it’s not necessarily pretty.  I didn’t walk into a 1700 team and get carried.  I’m earning it the hard and bloody way,  in the trenches.

I was disappointed to see that it is often the way of a losing team to leave battle.  Eg if they get capped too easily or get matched up against a much higher rated team.  I thought at least in this instance,  that while you may be losing, or hitting your heads against brick walls – you are still learning – forced to think harder under pressure, even if you only just managed to pee the other team off rather than beat them.

But my journey so far is a start,  its learning,  and at first I was ashamed of my loss ratio, but this season has also been a valuable networking opportunity.  When your trade pugging rateds,  you meet other like minded people,  other groups, and get invited to another  Pvp channel  ( our old one died… ) and eventually become part of better teams.

Got into a pretty steady 3’s arena team too,  mainly for points for gear, and that has also helped but we really left it too late in the season,  but we are still winning on occasion :)


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