WWS – Fathom Lord Karathress

Firstly – I am estatic over my + Shadow Damage.
Secondley – I am depressed because the two other main shadowpriests in the guild, have less +shadow Damage then me, ( well according to the Armory.. but I checked Gankbang and my class leader is listed higher in shadow damage then whats shown in armory)  – anyway he did almost 100K more damage then me according to the WWS Stats.  He came 8th and I came 11th,  

But I didnt have my belt of blasting during the run..  and that should not have made such a significant difference anyway.

So I was trying to work out how he got that 100k extra-  on Fathom Lord Karathress in SSC

Vampiric Touch –

Him 84979k ( 72%)

Me 33016 ( 27%


Him 116463 ( he was criting at 39%  I think he had a Shaman in group.. they have the crit tots don’t they?)

Me 104293 24% crit


Him  125870

Me 82529

Star Shards

Him 32255

Me 22159

Shadow Word Death

Him 3648

Me 28900

Shadow Word Pain

Him 124699

Me 106262

I think I Understand how to read the intricate details of wws now….   some of it just doesnt make sence YET…. and I’ve checked Karathress’s 3 friends ( the other mobs ) and he out Damaged me on all but one – so it wasn’t as if we had differnt assignments.

So what have I learned?

Keep VT UP ALL THE TIME.  It was a 50k odd damage difference for the same fight.  Yes it was the first time I have ever done this one,  so I was not following cast sequence and running round pillars a little bit to escape his whirlwind. But no excuses.

Mindflay more – ? It wasn’t like I was standing round doing nothing.. may have been running around a little bit but not that much.  

I think Im going to equip my offhand Trinket with less + damage but 17 Haste…

Now just need another raid to test belt of blasting and Haste..


5 Responses to “WWS – Fathom Lord Karathress”

  1. 1 naturalchaos April 15, 2008 at 6:21 am

    Is that a typo or did you really do over a million damage with Shadow Word Pain? If so I don’t think you really have much to worry about 🙂

  2. 2 pugnacious priest - A female Players Warcraft Blog April 15, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    opps.. I wish! Nope it was a Typo i will edit!..

  3. 3 Tuna April 15, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    If you compare anyone new to a fight with a veteran raider who has done the fight many times before, you will always see a HUGE difference.

    For that fight in particular, I am pretty sure you were given certain instructions such as “Make sure there are no dots up at such and such seconds before whirlwind.” and “Make sure there are no dots up when he transitions from human to demon phase.” so that you don’t pull agro.

    Usually when given such instructions, one would tend to be less agressive with their dps so no mistakes on their part will happen. I am pretty sure you stopped dots early just to “make sure” you don’t do something wrong. While the other S.priest who knows the fight well, knows exactly when to stop and when to start with dots and dps’ing.

    WWS might look intimidating (sp?) but you can learn a lot from it. You can see how many times someone activates a trinket, or proc’s a certain buff. You can see how many ticks of a certain spell for someone did, or how many times they casted a certain spell. Just take your time and explore all that WWS can offer in order to make yourself a better raider.

  4. 4 Meltfacer April 18, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    Tuna – U are thinking of Leo not Karathress 🙂

    As for the WWS evaluation, you have no doubt noticed that your VT up time really hurt you. Do you have an addon like DoTimers or Quartz to help you keep dots up?

    As for the rest of the damage difference (some of which can be contributed to the shaman in his group +100 damage and 3% crit totems) but I am wondering if you had mana probems at the end of the fight due to your VT not being up all the time. If you were out of mana for the last 20% or whatever, and he was still going all out with his shammy, this would surely cause a big difference. Another option to save your mana is to sw:d less and flay more .. I think it all comes back to the VT uptime tho 🙂 Have fun.

  5. 5 slotterhouse April 21, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    Yeah plus Shamans do have spell crit tots for an extra 3 percent if they are elemental spec. you should be in a group with the same type of shaman if they want the most damage out of you as well.

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