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A Raid outside of Guild.. and General Musings


I signed up for a Sunday night raid several days earlier – and then 1 hour before the time last night, I cancelled my sign up.

It was well past invite time – and a friend invites me to a Mags run  and while I know I shouldn’t  – I agree.  I want to raid I want to practice my Raiding.. /Dps….

So I’m waiting in Hellfire Basin. I get a tell from my guild asking me ” Weren’t you signed up for the guild raid tonite?”  ” Yes” I responded,  ” But they were all core raiders in the Que and it didnt seem likely that I would get a spot. So I cancelled my sign up”

“Didn’t you post on the forums what bosses you need?” He asks

” I am 1193 Shadow Damage.. ”   ( yep yep I am now..  ) I don’t need loot, I need to practice raiding to use it.. ”

“Don’t cancel your sign up if you are available to raid.” He responds.  I don’t reply and proceed to Two shot Mags with the Friends Guild. 

I wasn’t in Mags for Loot,  but I want to learn and test out my gear, and spell rotations.. and  all the funny things that you can only learn from doing the raid.  Didn’t feel like being all prepared for a raid and sitting like a dog does for a bone to be thrown at them, to find out that even though I was approved and made plans accordingly that a core raider signed up last minuite and they don’t need me. They have done that to me before..   So for prides sake..  I didnt want it to happen last night..

So as much as I like the people in the guild,  they constantly cause me to question what do I want out of Warcraft End game, and Raiding, as well as what is pride and respect..   

Im expecting a reprisal..  Im sure that they may have seen I was in Mags. – And even though we haven’t done a 25 man raid on a Monday night in several weeks,  Im sure that tonite they will decide to, and it will be Mags/Gruls and I will have to say – sorry am locked.. and they will question..  “Why did you pug it?”

So Im formated my answer… and to be basic.. I don’t like being a benchwarmer..   but the grass is always greener on the other side… and I haven’t publically QQ’d….  I shouldnt have to list the bosses I want so they can sub me in and out…   nor do I want to leave guild yet.. , and yes I completly understand the importantance that should be accorded to a core raider..  they have earned those positions.. someway.. and before I ever got there, but they now have 3 well geared shadowpriests.. and one is a Core raider..   

Above All is I want to LEARN….. yes I like loot..     but if I wanted a free ride  I’d play the girl card and maybe offer some free ‘special’ air time on vent..

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3 Responses to “A Raid outside of Guild.. and General Musings”


  1. 1 Kyrilean April 28, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    I think you have a great point here. Another of the many reasons that I decided not to join a raiding guild. Although I’m a holy pally and healers always seem to be in demand, I probably wouldn’t have to sit on the sidelines too much.

    That said, I wouldn’t want to have my night completely reserved for a raid that I was accepted to, only to have that taken away at the last minute with nothing to do. How is that fair?

    I also wouldn’t like to be switched in and out on the bosses. Like you, I believe raiding through each encounter keeps your skills honed. And I’d definitely rather play for fun; the loot is just a bonus.

  2. 2 Anna April 28, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    I don’t think you were in the wrong here – you canceled your sign up, and you waited until well past invite time before you went to another group.

    Maybe that’s my position as a member of a non-guild raid, but as a sub, it seems to me that you did the fair thing. Not only did you cancel your sign up, but you gave them the chance to decide that they needed you. Unless you are a core raider (and they had a sign up thread in advance that you *knew* meant they would have a 25 man on Monday to Mags/Gruul), subbing into another raid does not seem to me to be irresponsible.

    I also don’t like subbing people in and out for bosses, but I understand how it can be beneficial if you have a glut of one particular class – the raid I’m in usually just alternates days and bosses so that we can get a decent rotation going.

  3. 3 pugnacious priest - A female Players Warcraft Blog April 28, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    I think I just wont sign up untill before sign up dead line.. it doesnt seem to matter if your an extra and in first.. but its bearable at the moment.. cheers..


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