Pugnacious: inclined to quarrel or fight readily; quarrelsome; belligerent; combative. Dictonary.com
When I found myself in a Vent over this weekend where a long diatribe of the conversation were negative remarks towards women. Not just one little comment, but they were egging each other on, each line more offensive then the other. I could have sat there like a good little girl and taken it. Not bitten, not reacted, not defended myself, or reminded them that there were ladies in the channel and to rein the conversation in. I could have left the vent if I found it so offensive. Did I stay silent? No way.
I turned an insult back on them, and I felt their hackles raised over the airways. “So its ok for you to have a go at girls, but you can’t take it if it’s directed to boys?” I asked – extremely outnumbered.
One guys excuse for their behaviour was that it was ‘normal’ – I had asked where all the gentlemen were because they certainly were not in this channel.
I don’t think I was out of line – for me not to remind them that they were being inappropriate would have meant that I was approving of their behaviour, and I think that people can need reality checks – no one knows that they are doing something wrong unless they get told.
Did I go on a female lib rant? No. I didn’t need to, I just needed to remind them that they were going to far. Did it work?. I think so, they didn’t say anything further along that line as least while I was in the channel.
I got a pst from what I assume was the only other girl in the channel glad that I had stuck up for myself – and I’d do it again, because if that is what it takes to make it a more pleasant environment for me to play in, then I am going to bite. It doesn’t have to be an in your face “respect my authority” rant, but I do believe that standing up when things are not right, can be as important as doing what is right.
Afterward they’re going to say you were such a bitch and what is it with women who can’t take a joke? Then they’ll go back to making sexist jokes. Someone else will say something and she’ll get called a bitch and why can’t she take a joke? They’ll all wonder why women can’t just be quiet and women will wonder why they put themselves in the line of fire by speaking up.
And then one less guy will join in next time.
Repeat as necessary.
Good for you for saying something. Thankfully such behaviour is at a minimum, and any ‘anti-women’ jokers will get mercilessly teased by the high number of competent female players in the guild.
Cheers for pugnacious women. 🙂
I use to work at places that alot of women work at, and have been a fly on the wall so to speak. When women talk amongst themeselves they are more foul then men. I was like….WOW. “Women talk like that?” If it was a certain couple of women, and or just one time I would be like “Ok, it was a fluke. ”
Nay Nay kind gentlewoman, I have heard some very disgusting things from the mouths of women. So make no mistake, it’s not just men who have foul mouths, women just keep it more private.
The problem isn’t with who is doing it, it is with what is and has been socially acceptable. Look at movies and music and tell me how much more prevalent it is to see a man assert dominance and disparage women with little to no consequence.
I am a 32 year old male and cannot stand Family Guy and most humor like it. I still play WoW religiously with a few console games here and there with my friends. I have 2 daughters and a son and Lord help me if they will grow up and subject others to or be subjected to the kind of behavior Ms. Pugnacious put a, if only temporary, stop to.
P.S. Going through some classes related to “male privilege” makes this a hot subject for me.
Good job for standing up Pug. People have to be told when something isn’t acceptable. I’m sure some of them will make a better effort to change how they treat / talk about women, at least in front of them.