Too fast – Too Slow :Let me know – Just let me pull

I rolled another  Warrior Tank over the weekend.  Zahrana  She is prot, and atm level 26, and has been doing Dungeons since 16. In heirloom Chest, Shoulders, and Weapon, and I am working on a trinket.

She is closer to home, so I can still listen to guild chat, trade chat, keep her financially viable, and geared up better than my other tank who is all alone on another realm.

I had to roll a 2nd ( sorry) because I am loving tanking, and getting to play my 1st Warrior is dependant on time zone differences, and I have been trying to be patient  but I want to see a warrior to 80, and I’m motivated now.  I intend on playing both!  They are a lot of fun.

We get plate at 40, but I don’t think that’s our strongest armor.  I’m not sure what the real armor is called, I’ve tried to come up with some names,   maybe thick skin, silent resolve, Patience, Seething rage, disparagement, it’s an armor against behaviour though,  not damage.

It’s good to be back in dungeons that I am familiar with  – and as a 2nd round of lobie tanking I have more confidence then when I first started.  I am also a little more assertive, and possibly  bordering on terse, and unfriendly on occasion.

I am saying don’t a lot. I am now zoning into each instance with a ” Too fast – Too Slow – Let me know :  but Let me pull.

Tanking adventures include

Dps pulls as we zone in.  I say ” Really…”     eg HINT HINT  Dps starts chain pulling. “oh well you don’t need me”  /leave instance

A Mage rolling need on mail greens. When asked why ”  I’ve only played this toon 3 times”  “Would you like me to explain the difference between need and greed?”  I ask trying to be helpful “Please do”  and as I am explaining in 3 lines. The Healer goes ” Just..  Pull”   

Shammy pulls, and then proceeds to tank Boss the second I zone in to party standing near the Turtle boss in BFD.  Seeing him cast I ask “What did you do to your last tank?”  “He was a retard”  they respond.   Shammy still tanking away. “Well it looks like you don’t need a tank anyway – Cya” /leave instance

“What did you do to your last tank?” I asked to a party in a WC in progress ” He had enough”  I then get whispers from the dps about the behaviour of the hunter.

”  why haven’t you done any damage in this run at all?” In Stockades,   Rogue was nearby, doing nothing, and we were working our way down a side wing, having already cleared the rooms in the front. Party goes ?    I link Metres.  Rogue hits one mob.  ‘I have too!  See!” Then proceeds to try to pull half the instance.   We survive.   He then rolls a level one on my realm to tell me to “cry more”   /ignore rogue  /ignore level 1

Perhaps I am being a little prima donna on occasion still.  If you pee me off in the first few pulls, and show me that I am going to have to fight you the whole instance for agro,  for planning, for pulling – for control – then I will leave. It’s worth the debuff. Especially since I do not have to wait for the debuff to cool down to queue up another specific instance – the extra xp and gold from completing a random  and the satchel of helpful goods is crap. Spell power mail,  4 x the same cloak or belt. Crap.Crap. Crap.

Just please, pretttttty please let me do the pulling

This tanks unladylike crime,  is not cow crack like my Tauren Warrior,  more like Human Cheek.  /shows cloak / Dons tabard  I almost changed pants when I saw the front, very glad I am not a blue haired Female Night Elf Warrior. Armor FAIL

25 Responses to “Too fast – Too Slow :Let me know – Just let me pull”

  1. 1 Narx June 22, 2010 at 1:35 am

    I have found the same – even at 80.

    People just don’t have patience anymore. I zoned into a random heroic where I was told, not asked, told that I had to pull fast please “because I have dailies to do.” I then asked why didn’t he just go do his dailies then?

    He didn’t like that. Given that tanks are harder to come by than healers on BG9 Horde they weren’t exactly about to kick a 50k tank.

    But I see this at low level still. On my pally it was bad, but on my bear it’s even worse. There is a lot of bad players out there in heirlooms that just seem to pull everything they can as quickly as they can because “Lol I’ll get healed.”

    It shits me to no end >.<

    • 2 youyankityoutankit June 22, 2010 at 2:14 am

      It’s fun being on a lowbie healer [my main is a tank] and telling them that no they aren’t going to get healed 😛

      • 3 Pugnacious Priest June 22, 2010 at 2:44 am

        like the warlock that life taps down low, but doesnt drain, and watches the healer drinking before demanding “Heal”

        • 4 Key June 22, 2010 at 2:15 pm

          Oh, I hate getting warlocks in my group on my lowbie healer. I don’t mind it at 80 – I just riptide them and let them life tap away. Of course there are always those that wait until the riptide is done ticking to start life tapping… >.<

          • 5 Shiva June 22, 2010 at 5:02 pm

            I’ve never mind them much. I guess it helps the only classes I really level’d up with as a healer was priest and druid. I just tossed them a hot and it was good to go.

      • 6 Dyre42 June 23, 2010 at 1:28 am

        I do the same thing on my lowbie healer. I have a macro that says,”I don’t heal tank wannabees.”.

  2. 7 Narx June 22, 2010 at 1:37 am

    Oh and lastly – items for females seem really bad art wise.

    Especially mail legs, and plate breastplates after 60. Even now my belf DK in Cataclysmic Chestguard has some midriff showing :\.

    • 8 Pugnacious Priest June 22, 2010 at 2:05 am

      Midriff and cleavage is fine – we can still be feminine… Blue Fur in alllll the wrong places is not. As for tanking while bum cheek showing..

      • 9 Narx June 22, 2010 at 2:39 am

        I’m wearing a breastplate or plate mail armor and my midriff and/or cleavage is showing?

        Great protection…

        BTW – has anyone else ever noticed boobs are really, really obvious in some tabards?

        • 10 Pugnacious Priest June 22, 2010 at 2:49 am

          welll technically.. in a real life battle, the flexibility of the female style of armor might actually provide more manourverability then head to toe plate. So standing there and taking damage in a full suit of armor would be understandable, but given that our tanks run, and weild 1 handed weapons – well we need that extra flexibility. Wtb more male midriff.

          • 11 Narx June 22, 2010 at 7:32 am

            If I wanted cleavage and movement I’d pay more attention to my wife 😉

            But no – it seems sexist to have such revealing armor pieces for women. It’s more or less why I use a tabard – no not for the enhanced boob effect, but because the armor itself looks tacky otherwise 😦

  3. 12 Klepsacovic June 22, 2010 at 2:50 am

    Woooooooo! I’d tank and spank that, baby!


    My priest got healer for her first Ahune group. She switched from shadow, started to think about drinking, and then decided the group was confident enough that they’d not need me. So she went back to Dalaran.

    Some days I just don’t feel like carrying people through their own stupidity.

    • 13 Pugnacious Priest June 22, 2010 at 3:22 am

      Yeah I’ve been going into Ahune as healer, and spending more time dpsing, unless they are a particularily bad group and stand on ice spikes.

    • 14 Shiva June 22, 2010 at 6:44 am

      Err… I am not sure what’s the problem. I normally queue as dps/healer and spend most of my time as shadow doing randoms (and today Ahune).

      Obviously, I swap back to Discipline for getting an ICC-5 man, but that’s honestly about it. A decent tank does not really need a Disc Priest, especially when you can use VE and pump out dps and heals.

  4. 15 zelmaru June 22, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    Nice bum. Now… I can’t find the Hammer of Grammar cartoon that I wanted about the differences between male and female armor (that cartoon is offline and there are no copies of that particular episode) but… here ya go:

  5. 16 Mashugana June 22, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Great post – I am tanking on a Paladin for the first time and I am stunned at how often I have to repeat ‘please let me pull.’ Best reply I got so far was a mage who said ‘I should pull – I have the longest range attack!’


    • 17 Shiva June 22, 2010 at 10:01 pm

      Some people just have ants in our pants. Often when I am on my priest, if the tank isn’t pulling, then I am. If he doesn’t like it, I am going to fade or shadowmeld.

      The way I see it, if I am the healer and I’ve got mana and you DON’T have to go AFK or have some sort of emergency, you better be pulling. And if you’re not, then I am.

      • 18 Pugnacious Priest June 22, 2010 at 10:32 pm

        If the tank doesn’t like it this one leaves – you can still wipe in lobie intances- And some of them are a long run back – it also increases the chances of people leaving the party on a wipe because there were too many pulls be it pets on agressive – any class that thinks oh I’ll just grab that pack while the tank has his eyes on another pack. I’ll never pull for a tank unless it’s a planned shackle pull. It’s about control- and no one ever asks the tank to pull faster – they take it in themselves to fix the speed – and I have been leaving instances and will keep doing so if someone is going to make my job hell because I have no Idea what suprise pull they are going to pull next

        • 19 Shiva June 22, 2010 at 10:59 pm

          We should group sometimes! WTB cross-server heirlooms -.-

          But seriously, I am by no means advocating you should stay in a situation which you find to be unfun. I am just trying to push the other side, devil’s advocate if you will. I have all 4 tanking classes at level 80 and I spent most of those levels being a tank.

          I guess this is also one of the things I dislike about the new looking for dungeon. It’s not like the old times when I’d find a really good pug healer or tank (or dps) and then whenever I’d see them on we’d chain run a few instances.

          With a couple of my alts, I got to know some people leveling up really well (to the point where I’ve bought dual-spec for people I’ve known 2-3 days…) and got to know their healing/tanking ability/capabilities.

          A lot of that is lost now, but I suppose that’s another discussion topic…

          • 20 Pugnacious Priest June 23, 2010 at 12:34 am

            see if you could communicate with the tank in a timely manner. – eg on vent ” I’m pulling blah” ” do you want more..” then the synergy you get from running with someone you know will work and you can pull to help, but at least ask the tank to go faster….

  6. 21 Vas June 22, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    Wow, you’re such a bitch! So I’m bookmarking your site.

    My tank is still level 51. I’ve only had one really bad run, where the healer was spouting off about how bad I sucked, and then he started with the racial slurs. I’m ashamed that I didn’t put him on ignore and drop/votekick immediately.
    My next worst run wasn’t bad at all, just someone complaining that I wasn’t pulling enough people at once. I pointed out I was already spending half my time as a frog (no dispells), if he wanted more pulls then no problem.
    I hate the instances at this level, I just don’t know the maps. I can’t wait for level 80.

    I’m having a lot of fun on my holy priest, lvl 62. Leveling these two together I’ve learned how the tank and healer really are the core of the group. I’ve always known it, but I didn’t feel it the same way before when I leveled my rogue and mage to 80.

    • 22 Pugnacious Priest June 23, 2010 at 12:37 am

      I’m a little worried about the 50’s- not as confident in those dungeons, but I’m not a bitch all the time – /ignore saves drama. I try and avoid vote to kick if they are doing their job. But /ignore to silence people. Muuuuch better

      • 23 Shiva June 23, 2010 at 2:52 am

        I think you’ll be fine, it helps to get more tools. And shockwave is a lot of fun!

        She’s right, ironically, I don’t see how you can call her a bitch when she’s just asking for a little courtesy.

        I don’t know, I guess I’ve adapted to this style where I think a lot of people are either ignorant or naive — that is, they don’t believe in their own ability. But once the shit hits the fan and they see everyone survive and everything flows fine… it starts to click.

  7. 24 Katherine July 1, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Am I bad as a newbie bear tank (new to tanking not just to bearing) for *not* carrying rage-refilling potions? I’ve had moments between pulls where I’ve had zero rage and my rage-refilling move is on cooldown, and I don’t want to pull because I know someone will start AoEing right off the bat or focusing on something I haven’t faerie-fired, but if I don’t pull someone else will. I just can’t win!

    I know I should manage my rage/pulls better, but I’m still learning. I’m used to mana dammit.

    • 25 Pugnacious Priest July 2, 2010 at 12:24 am

      I never used pots – ( could never find them on the ah) Between blood rage which I have glyphed so It doesnt eat my health, and Berserker – not having as many issues with rage. Some of these pugs don’t seem to understand about the needing to get hit to help generate your rage, and by doing the pulling they are really making it even more difficult for you to tank.

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