Faction identity & working together


Are you Alliance or Horde to the core?

There was some suggestions floating around Facebook, Reddit, and forums that allowing Alliance and Horde to work together more, would decrease overall toxicity between players and in the game, and that our factions just seek to divide us further and encourage hostility towards each other.

I’ve been flagged for PVP all of Shadowlands – its a nice little bonus and for the most I get left alone. There’s the odd bones of a death sitting around the steps on the Seat of the primus in Maldraxxus, where I have made my home. It’s a reminder not to go AFK at the flight master, and on occasion there will be some PVP and general chat calls all the warriors to home to defend against the enemy.

When we quest in Korthia there’s a bit more action and Horde and Alliance travel around in small packs and we have a bit of a tussle – this only often lasts as long as it takes for either one of us to finish our quests, it’s more of a you’re there and flagged so you are fair game rather then a true faction hunt and destroy.

I used to be afraid of World PVP, didn’t think I could hold my own, and didn’t want my game play and fun interrupted. Now its an acceptable dalliance,camping is never fun but if your silly enough to keep coming back to the same spot on a quest (yes me, in the hope they have moved on ) then dying a few times and a corpse run while still an inconvenience, it’s not too bad.

I know there was controversy when they removed the /spit emote. It wasn’t one I felt I needed to use. Most the /spit’s I saw were in battlegrounds. Being that hateful to your opposition never really seemed to be a Alliance v Horde thing, it’s we are taught generally in society that if they aren’t on your team then they are the enemy. I don’t think it’s going to matter who the opposition is, even if we bring in Alliance v Alliance PVP matches – the other team is still the other team. Going back to playing sports as kids and playing other schools – being taught ‘sportsman’ like behavior and shaking their hand at the end of the match was one thing, but truly considering them mates, or equals or even having a friendly chat didn’t happen. In professional sports team bonding is encouraged amongst your own team members to keep the team strong and loyalties clear. Do we need to feel like we belong to a team to the exclusion of all others, and would breaking down those lines between Horde and Alliance going to make everyone nicer to each other?

Generally I think if people want to be asswipes and /spit its not because of a faction is because they are asswipes. Faction wars is just an excuse ‘ But they are horde… ‘ or they are filthy Alliance… ‘

I like the idea of reducing pure Alliance v Horde PVP – I want a good game, and if that means that they can do better matching and faster queues then that’s great. I don’t think it matters if my team mate is an Orc or a Gnome, if they are on my team and we have a flag in mind, we both want to win that game. Mixing up the starting positions in PVP also means we are forced to adjust strategies and get a better feel for a map rather then starting at the same gate every time.

I don’t think we need to keep the lines between Alliance and Horde so strict – and I am supportive of blurring these where it could. We are currently fighting for the same world.

Will it make toxic players less toxic? I don’t think so, there will always be ‘otherness’ faction , race, gender. It won’t matter what your otherness is – some people will always find a way to use that to divide.

1 Response to “Faction identity & working together”


  1. 1 atherenlightrunner September 15, 2021 at 4:30 am

    I’m Alliance to the Core and have always thought Horde and Alliance should be able to talk and help each other. Maybe they could try it out on non-PvP servers?


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